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This scroll is based off of the Schwarzes Gebetbuch, also known as the Sforza Hours, part of a collection of black books of hours of Charles the Rash, Duke of Burgundy, c. 1466-76. My sister translated the Latin for me.

I did this for the Baronial Champions competition at Kingdom Arts & Sciences Festival in 2010. First real dealings with a dip pen. Good times. XD
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~hollyann Feb 3, 2011
Black scrolls have always fascinated me! I've seen one or two digital versions of Book of Hours and I can't help but to drool over them, as well as wonder: how the heck do the people create the black scrolls and still have them look NICE? I've worked with black paper on other things, and I always need to pencil things in, but then you can see the lines afterwards, as I use a white pencil so I can see what I'm doing...and of course, I can't erase that...

I hope that someday I can give black scrolls a try, they look like a challenge, but oh so pretty!
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~Merwenna Feb 3, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
A bunch of the black hours scrolls that I've found (which I guess really isn't a lot, but still...) actually have the border and calligraphy margin guidelines still visible... so I wouldn't worry about lines showing up!

Like in these from the Schwarzes Gebetbuch:
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I just painted over the ones I drew on the paper in white, and then used colored paint on top. It might not be "period" but it got the colors to show up and the pencil lines for the flowers to be hidden!



You should totally give them a try, they are REALLY fun and super pretty :)
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~hollyann Feb 3, 2011
What would you use to ink it though? Do they have white ink that would be fine to use?
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~Merwenna Feb 3, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't remember what ink I used on this one, but the one I did with white ink on black I used Higgins white ink... I got it at Michaels in a pack with red, blue, and black inks. It worked pretty nicely!

I don't actually think I inked this one... I just used pencil and then white paint. But I bet waterproof white ink would work!
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~hollyann Feb 4, 2011
Hmm, Well I'm going out tomorrow, and I'm swinging by my local art store, I could see if they have Higgins white ink there :)

I do have black bristol board too...is that alright to use for black scrolls like this? Or is there another type of black paper I could use?
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~Merwenna Feb 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I used black bristol board but I've also used black watercolor paper. I think I'd recommend the bristol though, just 'cause it's sturdier.

One of my friends uses speedball white ink, so I can vouch for it's usefulness, though I've never messed with it myself. Just in case you can't find the Higgins stuff. :)
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~hollyann Feb 4, 2011
Ah, excellent! I'll give it a try then with the black bristol board...that way I don't have to look around for black watercolour paper...art stores are short in supply around here, and even if they do have it, it'll cost an arm, leg and soul sometimes...

Would you also happen to know of other black book of hours? I know of this one: [link] but I don't often come across black books very often, and I'm always interested in seeing what sorts of illuminations others might have as well.
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~Merwenna Feb 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
That one and one other one are the two I see the most. The second one I know of is Das Schwarzes Stundenbuch; I don't have a webpage for it but if you Google image search that name a bunch of pictures of it come up. The little mini black hours scroll on my page is based off that one; I took a class on it at Pennsic.

According to my class notes, there are two other ones my instructor talked about/was able to document, Les Basses Danses de Marguerite d'Autriche, and one that is apparently unnamed in the Vatican library.

Here's some of the Basses Danses stuff, but the Vatican Library one is hard to track... O_O;

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